Guys,During Carr’s tenure OSU had roughly, twice as many players drafted by the NFL as did Michigan. Using that criteria, OSU should have won all or most of the games. They have had more good players. Yet, there was a period of time when it was 10-2 for UM and stands 11-8 right now. Recent years have been close but losses. Considering the disparity in talent, do you think maybe we have been a little too hard on LC and staff? We all respect your opinions.
Don
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Thanks for the question. Part of coaching is putting up with high expectations. This is especially true at school like Michigan. When you sign on at elite level program, you know the scrutiny is going to huge. Therefore, from that point no, we were not too tough on Coach Carr and staff.
Twice, 2001 and 2004 Michigan had better personnel than OSU. As far as talent difference, Michigan had bigger problems that needed to be changed. Where I disagreed with most Michigan fans, at least those who posted on GBW was that play calling by the offense was all that needed to be changed for Michigan to go 12-0 every year.
Play calling was least of what needed changed at Michigan. What hurt Coach Carr and Michigan in “The Game” was losing the close ones. Four of Michigan’s loses in the streak have been by less than a touchdown. Also fact that during streak OSU played in three NC games only highlighted to fans how far Michigan had slipped and OSU had risen. Add to that the perception that Michigan played boring football and you have recipe for upset fans.
HELL, even when Michigan won, and beat good teams fans would scream about the way Michigan won. In that case I would yes, fans were too tough on Coach Carr.
Let me close by saying this, as tough as we were on Coach Carr he was much tougher on himself. The men as much pride as any coach I have been around. As much as losing hurt fans, it hurt Coach Carr more.
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The problem most of us started having with Carr the last year or two, was the fact that players were not being held accountable form making mental and physical mistakes on the field. A lot of that had to do with the fact that towards the end of his tenure, Carr did not force his assistants to be very detail oriented in teaching techniques so you had athletic players, that were not playing fundamentally sound...
Carr was most effective we had a more hands on aproach to coaching. No longer can michigan "out athlete" modern offenses and defenses that were designed to beat more athletic teams.
What's with pretending all these things are questions people e-mail you? It's OK if you just want to talk about something without being asked.
Anonymous,
Funny you ask as your hiding and not putting your name out there, but that is "ok" with me. I have not put one question out there myself because I have a lot to do with my time. I answer questions that the "Bloggers ask" because it is the right thing to do and I hope it helps them understand the game along with learning something.
CoachBt is a big help for me in regards of answering the e-mail questions as well.
If you do not believe people e-mail questions so be it ... but Don who has the e-mail of DADRIEHL and I won't finish the rest of it for obvious reasons would disagree with you.
Thanks for the comment, but your wrong.
I think someone needs to verify that OSU had twice as many players drafted as UM during Carr's tenure. I HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt that's true.
2nd Anonymous:
You can look it up if you want. We were just answering the question. Please in fact do and then post them here. I do know for a fact that osu had a lot more first day draft picks especially in the first round than Michigan. You can also look that up as well. Your hired.
Haha, unfortunately I don't have the time to count first day draft picks, but I can tell you that. I can tell you though that UM currently has 46 players in the NFL, and OSU has 49.
Carr started coaching in 1994 - 13 years ago. I think it's safe to say that the majority of the 46 players have no been in the league for more than 13 years.
Now, the fact that OSU has had twice as many draft picks does not make sense unless UM had about 20 players who were undrafted and signed anyways, and all of OSUs players were indeed drafted.
Just pointing out that this is incredibly unlikely... that's all :-)
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