Eroc and coachBt,
I only just found your blog, but I really love it. I think you have some of the best analysis and closest ties to the program out of all the other blogs -- from what I have seen. (I do not get into the "paid sites".)
You may have seen that there is a very spirited debate going on now about night games on your GBMW. The idea really seems to be gaining traction among fans around the blogs. I just think it would be AWESOME and the crowd would be CRAZY! Could you chime in? Do you like the idea? Do you think Bo or Mo or Lloyd would of liked the idea? Would Coach Rod like the idea? Why isn't it happening? Why not put some permanent lights in with the renovations?
Thanks. I'll just hang up and listen.
Sincerely,
Fred
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Thanks for the question and comments.
Michigan is all about tradition. Tradition is what drives much of what Michigan does. They sell out 100,000-plus seats every Saturday afternoon, so why mess with success? Our guess is that the administration at Michigan is not too worried about it, or motivated to change.
Bill Martin, in our opinion, would rather have a early start for several reasons. They use the excuse of lighting and parking, but they have temporary lights up for the 3:30pm start games towards the end of the year. We believe it has more to do with fans tailgating and drinking for 8-10 hours before kick-off. Martin is more worried that nothing happens to the fans either before, or after, the game. He has seen what has happened on several occasions at Michigan State, where they report more arrest and problems with night games then during day games.
Martin has stated that as part of the renovation they are putting in everything needed for a night game, such as all the electrical cables, stands, brackets, etc., but they are not putting in lights right now because of the cost factor. He has said that if any donor wants to pay for them solely, then he would do it. This does not hold a night game back though, because if Michigan wanted to hold a night game ESPN / ABC / BTN would gladly pay for temporary lighting to be brought in. The television companies have to pay for lighting when they want a night game and there is none. Now if Musco (lighting company) would, say, put them up for free, then sure Martin would do it. Likewise, should ESPN / ABC offer a deal where they pay for the lights in return for at least 1 night game a year for the next 10 years.
Cost? I'm not really sure what the cost for stadium lighting for a football field would be. The basketball arena re-did there lights and the rumor was they cost around $700,000.00, so you have to figure with the size of the football field, you have to be talking somewhere in the 1.5 - 2 million dollar range, but that is just a guess. Then there's the question, do they just make it good enough for television or do they make it brighter? We learned when they re-did the basketball lights that there are actually different standards for brightness: college venues having one standard, and professional sports having another, brighter, standard.
Would the past coaches have like the idea? Well, frankly,d right now, it does not matter what they think of the idea. Bo always thought the games should be kicked off at 12:00pm and for him a late game was 12:30pm - 1:00pm start. Mo and Lloyd rather fell into the same pattern, but under Lloyd it seemed like a lot more 3:30pm kick-offs, but that had mainly to do with television coverage and not solely by what the school wanted for a start time.
Does Coach Rod like the idea of night games? I am sure he does, because while he was at West Virginia they had many night games along with weekday games (which will never happen at Michigan). I am glad the Big Ten has a rule about playing during the week. I believe Michigan football was meant to be played on Saturday and they do not have to worry about being on television because they are always on television.
Iit does not bother me either way, because my brother and I usually leave the same time, early Saturday,for a two-hour drive, dno matter what time the game starts. Some game days we just consume a lot more beer and food than others.
Would I like a night game at Michigan Stadium? Sure, but I would not want a lot of them each season. I could see one game a year, preferably one of the non-conference games when it is 90 degrees out so it would be a little more comfortable in the stadium. That place is like a sauna the first couple of games, especially if there is no wind, sun out and hot.
I do like a couple of the 3:30pm start times towards the end of the year when they bring the lights in because it gets dark in the second half of the football game, but I also like the 12:00pm - 1:00pm games so we can enjoy a short tailgate, go to the game, and then get home before dark.
The keyword for me is moderation. Will we see it soon? With Coach Rod here, it's more likely than it would have been with any of the previous coaches.
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Written by CoachBt and ErocWolverine
5 comments:
But how will the bricks look at night? My house has vinyl siding so I'm not too familiar with bricks.
WVU is not Michigan. Coach Rod had Saturday night games and weeknight games at WVU to increase exposure and help with recruiting. Obviously, that's not necessary at Michigan, and I'm quite confident Coach Rod recognizes that.
With all due respect, Fred, I don't think night games are a good idea.
Yes, the atmosphere would be crazy and it might give the team a boost, but this is MICHIGAN. Day games are our thing, and we don't need to conform to ESPN-driven fads. What's next after night games, weekday games? Alternate maize jerseys? To be honest, I don't want to every see any of these things in Ann Arbor.
Night games- no thanks.
Fred. Once agen you bring up knight games in an attempto rile up the fanbase and support your ass-inine comments about knight games being AWESOME AND SWEET> Knight games our the things that make little schuls poop and ppe because they gets to be on the TVs. But Michigan is all about the right traditions and celebrations. Touch banner. Band on field. Old People At Games. Relics of Past. A knight game messes up all those things. How our are boys going to see the banner if it is at knight! It is a knight game in darkness. Lights only take from the knight so much. The sky will still be dark. Old people in the stands will fall down teh stairs. Our you going to help all them old peoples!>! Im not. I sit in my site and plop my butts down and never leaf. But you our forgetting one major thing. Footballs. Footballs. Footballs our hard to see then their flying threw space and TateForceOne will through them frather than Sid Luckman or even God. Well maybe not God. Is he available to recruit? ND probably has him sined already. Domers! Also, you our forgetting one thing FRED. You our afraid of the dark. I red Bo's Lasing Lessons by candle light at knight. It took me ate months. Fred. How could you go to games at knight when the knight is so scarry with it's stars and space ships and aliens and UEFFOHs. This is something you should think about on your own in a world of darkness. Plese know more knight games or knight game talks or knights. Its sunny half the year in ALASKA. Why not hear?
OK, a couple of thing
First, thanks you eroc and coachBT for answering my questions. it is a vary good respond and well thoughtout. it is much better then the meanspirted comments that some have on hear.
Second, i want too keep the traditions too because i like the traditions lots. i like touching the baner and the bands and the music and yes even teh olds people. i just want to change them, thats all. i dont think the sun in teh sky or the moon in the sky is a fad or takes away the traditon of Bo and Mo and LLoyd.
THird, i dont thonk you can EVAR have to much exposur. exposure is a GOOD THING. We can use EXPOSURE to get the recruts out of florida and around the nation and in detroit so we can recruit michigan and take the title back from M$U and DAN Tonio.
Forth, mr. Benny i need to adress you personaly because you are being personel with me. the fact is that night game would be SWEET and AWESOME and AW-ENSPIRING! its been completely proven by polls and science about noises. the nights wont be a problem because we instal LIGHTS EVARYWERE! We will still see the footballs and the banners and the olds peoples just fine and thanks you very much! We install sooooo many lights that its like playing in the day. thats what night games are all about! And stars are beautiful people. I dont know what you have against stars. just because they are from holliwood doesnot make them alians or UFERs. i already conseded that we might have to watch for muggins and rapes and bad things like that, but thats what the lights are for too keep bad things from happenning and remember we wont know until we try. theres a 50/50 chance that it could be AWESOME and SWEET and a 50/50 chance that bad things could happen but its worth trying.
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