Wednesday, March 03, 2010

Michigan Football Tidbits: In regards to comments about Coach Carr and Adrian Arrington


Posted at 8:00am -- 3/3/2010

Michigan Football Tidbits: In regards to comments about Coach Carr and Adrian Arrington

We at GBMW have been receiving e-mails ever since the press conference about Michigan putting in 20 extra minutes a day for practice, along with making kids run after practice for missing classes.

People wanted to know why the Detroit media did not attack or go after Coach Carr regarding the “treatment” of Adrian Arrington.

First off, we will talk about the extra running. Players are only allowed so much time that is structured as practice by a coach or a staff member.

So the players are not allowed to do extra laps or running for missing classes since activity of this nature would take them over the hours allowed for practices.

As far as the Adrian Arrington situation goes and the related supposition people have about the media not attacking Coach Carr, Coach Carr suspended Adrian during the timeframe of this “incident” so he was not putting in team time within the correct structured timeframe.

We were informed that Adrian was to be at Michigan Stadium very early every morning for sixty days or so.

In addition many people were of the perception that Adrian ran the steps everyday. We were told that he did run steps once in awhile, but mostly the running time was spent on wind sprints and running routes by himself with no football or anybody throwing to him.

Coach Carr walked the stadium every single day, and in fact Coach Carr and Adrian frequently would just walk the stadium and talk, after Coach Carr felt Adrian had put in enough work for the day.

Adrian went from being not so high on Coach Carr early on (remember all the rumors of him leaving to transfer), to actually loving him to death.

So, we hope that helps put some of these Internet rumors to rest as unsubstantiated about the media going after Coach Rod and letting Coach Carr slide by because he was held in higher regard by the Detroit media. Ironically, this brings a chuckle since Coach Carr could not stand most of the media members, or what they stood for, and people wondered why Coach Carr kept most of the media out. However, one wonders what would have happened if such an “incident” occurred during the tenure of Coach Rod?

Written by GBMW Staff

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10 comments:

Anonymous said...

Difference in semantics. GBMW please take note: polite perspective that is bias is still bias.

Anonymous said...

I know we all enjoy having a more open football program but if I was in Coach Rod's shoes I tihnk I would have to revert to Carr's ways of keeping the media out.

Anonymous said...

Arrington should have smacked Carr in the mouth!

Markus said...

Even if Adrian was suspended by coach Carr and put into some arbitrary limbo category (i.e. "suspended") by the head coach, the NCAA would still view that athlete as a scholarship football player on the Michigan football team and the same rules about practice would apply. I don't see anything in the NCAA rule book that would allow coaches to kick players out and reinstate them all the while using extra practice, film time and workouts to "earn" the coaches trust again. That doesn't seem right.

My question would be is it OK then for Carr, or any coach, to "suspend" a football player for violating team rules or generally "screwing up", and then infer that in order to be reinstated they need to spend some time running stadium steps and running routes (albeit by themselves)?

I didn't even think about this example of Arrington until your post, but now I'm more convinced than ever that RR's questionable coaching practices are not being measured by the same yardstick here.

Good question from a great post.

ErocWolverine said...

Markus,

First off when Adrian was suspended that meant that he was NOT ALLOWED to participate with the rest of the team so he never had hours of working out with the team.

So his running or talking with Carr was his only time that was kept for his hours.

He did not work out with the team and then went and did the steps.

So not sure where your getting your information from that he was doing this as an extra deal because it was not -- it was HIS ONLY DEAL.

Again he was suspended so he was not practicing with the rest of the team to add to his hours.

ErocWolverine said...

For the people that send us messages on a routine basis that do not like our commentary as we say "if you do not like it -- don't read it - applies here.

It is funny the same people who hide behind "anonymous" seem to always come back and keep reading our stuff even though they do not care for it or atleast that is what they say.

David said...

Coach Carr was regularly blasted by Michigan and national media outlets whenever the team lost, and he was regularly ridiculed as the most boring interview in college football. As a result, I view the whole debate over the treatment of Rodriguez vs. Carr as revisionist history.

Coach Rodriguez is getting hammered because (a) his arrival in Ann Arbor was messy (the very meat of sensational journalism), (b) his comments about the players he inherited and Coach Carr’s staff were indiscreet (again, the stuff of sensational journalism), his administration of NCAA regulations has been sloppy, and his coaching record is the worst in Michigan football history.

David VanLuven, Delmar, NY

Anonymous said...

Glad you answered this question....have seen it asked a lot.

"In addition many people were of the perception that Adrian ran the steps everyday. We were told that he did run steps once in awhile, but mostly the running time was spent on wind sprints and running routes by himself with no football or anybody throwing to him."

"Coach Carr walked the stadium every single day, and in fact Coach Carr and Adrian frequently would just walk the stadium and talk, after Coach Carr felt Adrian had put in enough work for the day."

You say that nobody was around but then state they would talk when "Carr felt Adrian had put in enough work for the day" ??? How do we know if he really did anything...or where there "eyes in the sky" and just not on the field with him? Maybe it's all irrevelant since he wasn't practicing with the team....thus not counting against team hrs.

Thanks
Toothpick

ErocWolverine said...

Again he was suspended and was not practing with the team so he wasn't over his hours.

The whole debate has to do with the players working over the hours such as stretching being part of it along with when kids were in trouble and was made to run for missing classes, etc...

When you count the stretching and also the extra wind-sprints some of those kids could have easily put in 30-60 minutes extra on a given day. That is what the NCAA is having a big problem with.

Anonymous said...

How much hate can these e-mailers have for the Michigan program that they would complain about Coach Carr and Arrington from 4 or 5 years ago? These people make me sick. I guarantee every one of those e-mailers hated Carr from the day he came in to the day he left. They won't even give him credit for 97. The players won in spite of him.

You people that hate the program so much - GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

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